[00:00:03] Josh Fischer: There's definitely the large majority of high school and college athletes, any division from D1 to D3. Basically everyone has their own program, I tweak it based off of their needs and their interests in the gym. Any injuries were made, I have to work around. But, honestly, I got to tell you, I try and reinforce this to the kids all the time, but it's about having fun and enjoying yourself.
[00:00:30] PODCAST INTRO: Welcome to “In The RACK” podcast, where we provide you with the practical framework for breaking PRs in all facets of health and wellness. We are just a couple of bros giving you the simple house in a world of complex wants. No filters, no scripts, no rules, just straight talk, talk tune. Now, let's get into the rack with your hosts, Dr. Chad and Dr. Nick.
[00:00:55] Chad: Alright, everyone. Welcome to another episode of “In The RACK” podcast. I'm your host, Chad. And with me is my co-host and fellow physical therapists, Nick. Today we have a special guest on the podcast. It’s been a little while since we have. It has been a minute. But this guy goes by the name of Josh Fischer. Not only is, Josh, an amazing trainer and coach, but he also owns a facility down the road from us called Tsunami Strength, which is in Newburyport. It's right down the road. He just opened up this year. And we're glad that we can finally have him on the show. I know we've been bugging him for a little while. So he's finally made it in. I know he's been super busy lately. But I know we'll get more into Josh's business as we kind of start talking through the podcast episode. But, Josh, opened up “Tsunami Strength” within the last year and he's been crushing it ever since. Tsunami Strength is located graph road. And he offers personal training. He does small group training. I believe you do nutrition coaching as well. So he does it all. So he's been doing it for quite some time now. So we've been lucky to have known him over the past. I want to say like three to four years, maybe five, close to probably, four for four years. And he was working at another facility in the area which we had a great relationship with and then just kind of started his own thing recently. So we're excited to have him on here and kind of have a good conversation about his business himself. And what the future holds for Tsunami Strength. So why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself, Josh.
[00:02:35] Josh Fischer: So I grew up a little closer to Boston, and down in Lexington. And then my mom moved up here my junior year of college for years ago. Once I finished college, I went to college, UMass Lowell for exercise, physiology and nutrition. So once I moved back, or once I finished school, I moved back in with her and then moved out in the fall of that year. So basically, the summer going into my senior year, I got that job over at T1 training. Also had an internship with another Josh up in Rye called “Seacoast Sports Club”. So I kept team on job throughout the year, ended up there full time when school ended. And so it continued that unfortunately, they closed last year in November. So then I moved over to “Seacoast Sports Club”. And then they ended up closing so that was fun.
[00:03:45] Chad: You had a year man.
[00:03:47] Josh Fischer: So the running joke was maybe I was the problem. So maybe I didn't. So then I bumped around a few of my friends gyms in the area, and then eventually found this place in Newburyport, signed the lease in May, June, and then took about a month to get everything in and opened up in July.
[00:04:10] Chad: That's awesome, man. So I know you went to school at UMass and did exercise science and did the nutrition thing. So what did you have a passion for strength conditioning before you actually went to UMass, was that your plan the whole time? What was your plan?
[00:04:23] Josh Fischer: So the initial plan, I was actually recruited to play soccer in college. I was gonna go to Babson College down in Wellesley, I ended up getting a concussion my senior year, and that kind of derailed everything. So then ended up taking a gap year. And in the gap year, first I decided soccer just wasn't the right path anymore. And that's when I really started working out and learning a little bit more about the gym, and then it kind of just took off from there.
[00:04:55] Chad: That’s awesome. So you went to school, you're doing your own thing to do always know that you wanted to own your own business? Or is this like, “Man, I didn't really have a choice”. So I didn't want to take another chance somewhere else. And they go out of business, what was your thought process there?
[00:05:10] Josh Fischer: I think growing up, we're always “I think working with a team would be the best thing ever”. So I think going into school that was the idea. And then obviously, everything changes at a certain point. Like, I got the T1 job, love that and just stuck with it. And then like you said, just the opportunity arose and opened it up.
[00:05:36] Chad: Just had to go do it.
[00:05:38] Nick: What's been the biggest challenge that you have in your own business thus far?
[00:05:41] Josh Fischer: The biggest challenge probably was just getting it started. Mainly from a timing point of view. So I signed the lease at lunchtime on a particular day. Later that night, we flew out and went on a recreations. So everything was just like, get as much stuff done as possible before we leave. Luckily signed it the day of and then just been head down, go, go, and go.
[00:06:10] Nick: That's awesome. That's fantastic.
[00:06:13] Chad: That's a good question. And I'll kind of branch off that question. So that was the hardest thing getting started. But have you run into any obstacles since owning your own business since July versus the summer? Now that you're in there, and you hit the ground?
[00:06:29] Josh Fischer: So I'm pretty quiet and reserved person. So just like doing all the Instagram posts, doing things to go market. I have a thing on Wednesday that I gotta go do. So that's definitely just tough from a personal point of view. And the back room stuff like paying all the bills, all that stuff isn't too much of a hassle. You kind of get into a rhythm of it, but at the beginning just making sure everything was accounted for all that stuff.
[00:06:59] Chad: I would say that owning your own business, especially if you want it to be successful in the community. I feel if you're very much an introvert, you have to force yourself into being uncomfortable with being somewhat of an extrovert. You really have to go out into the community and build these relationships. And do we want to do it every single time? No, we don't. But it's necessary, and it's good. And you'll start to see that, the more that you give back to the community, the more the community will give back to you. I remember, we actually had a podcast with Jeff not too long ago, last year, and he had a great point. And as his dad had said this quote, and it sticks with me until now, and it was “If you stand by your community, community will always have your back”. So if you can just continue to give to the community, your community will never let you fail. So just making sure that you're just continuing to be present and give back and people can see that you're doing that, then they'll want to get back to you. It's pretty wild how it works, but it does, doesn't work right away. But within a year or two, maybe three, you're gonna start seeing that which is awesome.
[00:08:10] Josh Fischer: Like, I joined the Newburyport Chamber of Commerce. And at first I was like, I don't want to do. We had a ribbon cutting ceremony. I was like, “Why are you doing this down the road?” And even since then it's definitely helped get the name out total, they've been super helpful answer any questions.
[00:08:28] Nick: So you may just have to hire someone who can be the face. Like, that's what, Chad, do with me.
[00:08:32] Chad: That's totally. So now that's the truth. You have to find somebody that's better at something than you are. Like, Nick's clearly a better therapist than me. So I hired him, because I can take care of all this other stuff, but you just need to make people happy.
[00:08:47] Nick: That was always my thing too. I always had friends that from day one were like, “I want to have my own clinic. I want to have my own clinic”. I was like, “I don't think I really ever want that”. And I was like, “Things may change”. Like I always reserve the right to change my mind. But I was like, I don't want that. I told Chad upfront. I was like, “I don't want the business side of things”. I was like, “I'm glad that you're really good at that side”. Because I like the other stuff. Like if you want me to go out and do stuff in the community and put on a workshop, I'm all for it. You organize it, I'll do it. So it's a nice blend that way, but that's again, hiring people. I know you mentioned off affair that you're probably looking to hire you're looking for that person that can complement you and maybe they take care of the Chamber of Commerce. So because that's not your cup of tea. Not that you have anything against that. It's just like you need it, but it's not where your interests lie.
[00:09:38] Chad: You'll definitely start seeing that as you start getting into it where, Nick, made a good point. It's like when you when you do get to that point. And for anybody listening, Tsunami Strength is possibly hiring in the upcoming future. So if you get to that point where you're just like, “I got to find somebody to help me”. You need to find somebody that's going to cross some of this stuff off your list. So that you can spend more time on making Tsunami Strength what it needs to be. It's hard people get so. And I did this for years where like, you just you get stuck in your comfort zone. And for me, my comfort zone was treating. For you, it's going to be training. I'm just so comfortable treating all these hours that I don't want to worry about the business side, I'll take care of that later, and you just be comfortable there. But sometimes that can hurt you in the end. So a little piece of advice.
[00:10:28] Nick: And for anyone listening to it may sound like, Josh, is super introverted and doesn't want to interact with anybody. No, this dude walks the walk, and he talks to talk. There's a lot of trainers out there a lot of physical therapists out there that they might know their stuff. They might walk the walk, but they don't actually get in the trenches work hard. Josh, does both. So if you're listening, you're like, “Oh man, job opportunity could be opened up”. Great place, but you got to walk the walk and talk the talk. And if you're looking for a place to go train, you definitely want to be being coached by someone who is grinding too.
[00:11:06] Chad: Totally. So let's talk about Tsunami Strength. Let's talk about how you came up with that name. I remember talking to you about that a while ago, and you were like, “I think I'm gonna do Tsunami Strike”. I'm like, “That's so cool, and the logo is really cool”. So how did you come up with that name for it, for the logo or the brand of your business?
[00:11:22] Josh Fischer: So a few factors. The first one is, I wanted the alliteration. So two words that started similar. And I also knew I didn't want my name in it. So I would have been like Josh's Gymist, something like that. I love to surf. I got into surfing when my mom would have moved up here. So that's where I got the wave aspect of the logo and the word tsunami. And I guess the other aspect is, I'm actually adopted from the Philippines. So the whole tsunami, and that stuff is kind of symbolic.
[00:12:01] Chad: That’s pretty cool. So I didn't think about this Tsunami Strength.
[00:12:09] Nick: I was just looking at your picture. I was like, “Wow, that's actually really cool”. That’s pretty cool.
[00:12:12] Chad: The logo is pretty cool.
[00:12:14] Josh Fischer: For the logo, I used Fiverr.
[00:12:18] Chad: I've done that.
[00:12:19] Josh Fischer: Basically, just picking a tattoo artists and gonna pick someone who's designed you like and go from there.
[00:12:27] Chad: And then you can pretty much own everything they make. You just basically pay them for the service that we use them for a lot of things. It does help us out quite a bit. You got to figure out how you can leverage your time when you start owning a business. And you can't spend time trying doing that, that's not our forte either. Somebody's way better at that than we are so. So talk more about Tsunami Strength in the athletes that you have over there? Is there a certain type of clientele that you cater toward in terms of who you're training mainly from a day to day perspective?
[00:13:01] Josh Fischer: So there's definitely the large majority of high school and college athletes, any division from D1 to D3. Obviously, the college kids are gone for most of the year. So now it's mainly the high school kids, and then the college kids will probably be back in a week or so for winter break. And then in the summer, basically, everybody's back. But besides that, I have kids as young as 5th grade, 6th grade, and I have a 74 year old too. So there's a huge range which is awesome.
[00:13:35] Chad: And some of that is group and then some of that is individualized?
[00:13:38] Josh Fischer: So I have my own one on one clients. And then everyone else is part of this small group training, which is what I call it. Basically everyone has their own program. I tweak it based off of their needs and their interests in the gym, any injuries may have to work around. And then when they come in to work out, they'll be working out with up to seven other people, so eight people an hour. Also, on their own programs, and I'm just bopping around people helping them out answering any questions, making small talk, stuff like that.
[00:14:09] Chad: I love that. How many people that you typically have or how many people can your facility accommodate at this point? Like, if you do small group, how many athletes or clients do you have in there at one time?
[00:14:20] Josh Fischer: So eight people an hour. 6-9 in the morning and then 3-7 in the afternoon. And we're up to 45 client’s total, our member’s total.
[00:14:32] Chad: That's great, that's quick. That's really quick. Kind of going back on your training, do you have a certain training style or methodology that you use for programming your athletes?
[00:14:48] Josh Fischer: For the athletes so over at T1 we've kind of based it off of Matt winning over in Ohio. So I've taken some of that stuff that I've learned in school, stuff that I've experienced, whether that either the Seacoast places anywhere else and just kind of molded it all together. So everyone gets a good range of strength, conditioning, mobility, flexibility, agility, power, stuff like that.
[00:15:20] Chad: How often are those clients coming in throughout the week? Like, with your small group, is it twice a week, three times a week on the average? I know you can do like unlimited.
[00:15:28] Josh Fischer: You can go unlimited, which would be four days or more, four or five. And then three days a week, or two days a week, I would say most people are around three days a week.
[00:15:39] Chad: You probably have a bunch of groups too. And they all come at the same time. And they all kind of created this culture within that group. I would assume, and that's typically how it goes. And your 7am train might have a certain culture and then your three o'clock in the afternoon might have another culture. You were saying you get a lot of your adults that come in the morning because they like to get done before work. And then you have your kids that come in after school. Now in terms of, I'm sure there's a certain way to coach this. But, is there a leader for each one of these cultures that you have that sets this or do you set the culture, how does it work?
[00:16:22] Josh Fischer: Honestly, I think the music sets the culture, just play them. Like the adults get basically the adult music in the morning. Based on the six o'clock crew is definitely different from the eight o'clock and then when the kids come in in the afternoon us kind of blasting rap music.
[00:16:43] Chad: For sure. That's so funny. That is funny that the music does drive culture for sure.
[00:16:51] Nick: So you train a lot of college athletes. Now in the summer, when they come back, and a lot of them probably come back home with a program from their school. How do you work around that? Like if they have their own program that they're supposed to be doing? Do you just have them come in and they do that there or are you potentially adding to it? Are you just saying do this on your own, we're gonna do some other stuff.
[00:17:14] Josh Fischer: So it's kind of a hybrid. Like you said, I'm like, “This is better than that, or we can mash it all together”. For example, if a kid has a soccer player as a mile run test, I'll make sure we throw that into the end of their extra day, stuff like that. So we make sure we get everything. But in the end, some people are different. So some people are like, “Oh, I want to do your thing. No, I want to do my school's thing”. And sometimes you just got to meet them in the middle somewhere.
[00:17:49] Nick: I'm glad you said that. We being in here, when we see some of these college athletes that are probably also going to you at times, they come back maybe they deal with the injury, in season out of season whatever the case is, and they come in with this generic program. I think it's important for people to understand that, at a lot of these schools, the strength and conditioning program might not have the resources that may be a school like UMass Lowell, where they have their own exercise science. If the school doesn't have their exercise science program, their resources for strength conditioning might be a little more limited. So it might be something the football coach overseeing all the teams. Now everybody's team kind of looks like the football teams. Which they're still gonna get stronger, they still might get more powerful, but there might be missing there might be gaps in that program. So we've seen a lot of people they bring in this program, and we're like, “This is not good for you and we'll just tell them upfront’”, because we don't want to dance around that, because number one, they could hurt themselves. But number two, there, they only have four years to maximize their playing career here. And we want them to get the most out of that, so if they're just kind of, I don't want to call it wasting time. But if they're not optimizing all of their time in the summer trying to get better for their particular their sport, it can be problematic and be a hindrance for sure. So it's really awesome that you can blend the two and, obviously, I know you're gonna say it a different way to the athlete, like this isn't a good program. But you might just be like, “Look, let's do some of this stuff. But let's add some other stuff that I feel like you need. Because I think it's super important for people to know”.
[00:19:26] Josh Fischer: And I also make sure to ask the kids to bring their program mentor so I guess what he was doing. And I always asked him “Oh, do you like your coach? Do you like what you're doing?” For example, the kid who throws discus like, he loves his stuff there. He thinks it's awesome. And then the kid down south playing in lacrosse in Florida. It's kind of repetitive. Do something different for sure.
[00:19:55] Nick: Well, it's interesting too, because I know playing basketball in college, Springfield College, they have a huge exercise program as well. So the resources are almost too abundant, you almost have too many strength coaches at your disposal which can be great. But also, if you know nothing about that, which at the time I knew very little, until I started to learn it myself. You're going through things that are higher level, but sometimes the explanation is lost. Or maybe they didn't do a good enough job of explaining it to you in particular, like you missed. It went over your head, why you're doing a certain lift. So there were things that I was doing that I'm like, I think this in my head, I thought it was stupid hindsight being what it is now, I was like, “Wow, that was actually really good”. Like, that was very high level. But I wish I knew that then. And I think that's really cool from your perspective and be like “Bring that in, we can talk about it”. Because that individual might be like, it's really repetitive. And you might be like, “Well, you kind of need that in certain situations”. So I think that's great for these athletes too. Because a lot of times they go through, they're there to play their sport. And as much as the strength and conditioning can help. They may feel like well, this is stupid, or this is lame, or this is mundane. And you can be that reinforcement be like “No, actually, this is really good for you, so let's keep doing it”. We'll do other stuff too, that you want to do, but this is going to help you in the long run.
[00:21:15] Chad: I think you do get desensitized to that over time. Like, I know that I used to tiptoe around some of that stuff in the beginning, but I feel over time that's just complete shit.
[00:21:26] Nick: So you can still give a person the benefit of the doubt.
[00:21:30] Chad: But you can't. Because you're really good at that. I don't get benefits of the doubt anymore. I used to, but I leave.
[00:21:37] Nick: Everyone gets a second chance.
[00:21:40] Chad: Not everybody.
[00:21:41] Nick: I did the other day. I didn't give someone the benefit of the doubt the other day. Did you hear me the other day?
[00:21:44] Chad: I don't think I did.
[00:21:45] Nick: “Maybe you weren't here yet”. You probably won't hear but someone said. It was my stuff, you were here because you were like, “Chris, you're gonna have to cancel this”. She said, did podiatrists. I'm gonna call this podiatrist because I don't really know who it is, nor do I care. But this person was like, “We're gonna do cortisone injection first. If that doesn't work, you're going to go into boot. And if that doesn't work, we're gonna put you to scooter”. And I was like, “Hold on. Just stop seeing this person. Please don't ever go back to this person”. And I was literally straight up. Normally, I don't say that. Normally, he's right. I do give everyone the benefit of doubt. I'm like, “I don't see what this person has to say. But the scooters are okay. Nonetheless, I would typically give the other provider the benefit of this person”. I was like, “Dude, that is the worst advice I think I've ever heard. It was just bad”. But nonetheless, that time it did not get the person that you I got.
[00:22:42] Chad: I got you. I am proud of you. Now, that I know the story. I'm proud of you. So going back to your clientele, we all love our clients. We all love our patients. Is there a favorite age group or a favorites sport or a favorite type of athlete that you'd like to work here? Again, we all love our patients and clients. I have a favorite patient that I like to work with. My favorite type of patients. So even though I love working with all of them, but is there a favorite one that you tend to gravitate towards that you can, whether it's relate to or get?
[00:23:18] Josh Fischer: Like I said, I was recruited for soccer for college. So I played soccer. I wrestled and I played lacrosse. So probably, I don't want to say favorite of those for sure. But I definitely relate more to them. Like, someone on the track team, and I have never played drums or anything like that. But honestly, at the end of the day, I gotta tell, I try and reinforce this to the kids all the time. But like, it's about having fun and enjoying yourself. So if you're not doing either of those things, then kind of what's the point?
[00:23:52] Chad: I agree. And just because you don't play a certain sport, never played a sport doesn't mean that you, you don't know the mechanics of the sport or don't know how to train for that sport. So I totally get that for sure. Any type of mentors that you had in in throughout your years, whether it was in school, whether it was in high school, whether it was after college, that had an impact on you, or that made you really, really have a passion for strength conditioning?
[00:24:19] Josh Fischer: Obviously, a bunch of my school professors helped basically guide me to this point. And then, again, the internships, the jobs that have had, everyone's different. So they've been able to offer this as opposed to that. Gotten a lot of good help. I even came to you after T1 closed. And just talk things through your mind about things. Like I did that probably seven or eight people.
[00:24:51] Chad: Which is amazing, because not many people do that. So it's good that you did that.
[00:24:56] Josh Fischer: So even like people around here people a little closer to where I grew up even a guy out west that I got connected to. Everyone offered something.
[00:25:06] Chad: So that's gotta use your resources. So you've been in business now for six months or so now? I know you're still kind of getting your feet wet with a lot of things. But what has your vision changed for Tsunami Strength now that you've been in it for about five to six months versus before when you were just kind of collecting all your thoughts? Like, do you see a different path for Tsunami Strength than you did like six months ago? And if you do, or if you didn't, what does that path look like?
[00:25:41] Josh Fischer: So I guess the main thing is just keep expanding as much as I can. Whether it's expanding the membership, or just expanding the brand, get it out there. Get the town knowing about it getting surrounding towns knowing about and stuff like that? I guess that's the big thing, just because I am still fairly new.
[00:26:02] Chad: That's awesome. Like, do you see yourself having multiple trainers within one facility? Do you see yourself having multiple facilities? How do you see yourself with that?
[00:26:14] Josh Fischer: This space is 2000 square feet. And like I said, eight people an hour. So I don't really know what the max number is going to be for memberships, or if it does get to that point? I think I'll have a better idea of when summer hits, just because everyone's gonna be back. Again, expanding, maybe getting a second location, and definitely bringing on another trainer to stuff like that.
[00:26:39] Nick: That's awesome. That's fantastic. And the summer is nice too. And everyone's back. So you can I know, you like to use outside a lot too. You see the videos of sprints and stuff outside which is fantastic. Because I do the same thing out here. We are sometimes a little close with the trucks pulling behind the thing. They see us we wear blind colors.
[00:26:57] Josh Fischer: We got basically a driveway of about 100 yards, and I'll just make kids go down.
[00:27:03] Nick: That's perfect.
[00:27:04] Chad: That's great.
[00:27:05] Nick: That's awesome.
[00:27:06] Chad: So let's talk about you a little bit more on a personal level. So you obviously love to train. What is your training look like? , like, how many days a week are you training? Is there a certain protocol that you follow? Are you doing what you're prescribing to your clients? Are you doing your own thing? Like, how does that look for you?
[00:27:28] Josh Fischer: So like I said, I serve as much as I can. Obviously, I'm a little busy now, so I can't get out as much. Last year, my friend got me into Spartan Races, so obstacle course races. So now I like to say that I'm training for those. So I think I have nine next year Spartan Races. So that'll be fun between June and November.
[00:27:55] Chad: Are they all local?
[00:27:57] Josh Fischer: The farthest I'm going is Texas, everywhere else is New England.
[00:28:02] Nick: To do in Killington to?
[00:28:04] Josh Fischer: Go back and do that.
[00:28:06] Nick: You did last year?
[00:28:07] Josh Fischer: I did that this year that was degrading.
[00:28:13] Nick: I can imagine. My buddy used to work for Spartan Race. So he wanted me and our other friend to go to Killington. And luckily, I had something to do that weekend, so I couldn't do it. But it would have been fun to be brought down.
[00:28:25] Josh Fischer: I crossed the finish line. And she handed me the metal and the t-shirt and I was, “Get out of my face”.
[00:28:31] Chad: So degrading about it. Obviously, it was a hard course.
[00:28:34] Josh Fischer: I mean, it's just up and down. It took us seven and a half hours up and down. I didn't even cramp that early either. But after mile 10, I was just like, “Oh, I've seen more of this”. And then like my watch says, “I did like 14, so maybe it was even 14 miles”. I don't really know but I'll redeem myself next year.
[00:29:00] Nick: So how are you preparing for those? Are you doing some kind of recreating some of the obstacles? Or are you just doing general like, “I have to do some pull ups, chin ups, because there's going to be climbing obstacles and stuff like that”.
[00:29:13] Josh Fischer: So I've never been much of a runner. But because of all this stuff, I've gotten more into that. So I'll run once a week, like I ran yesterday. And then during the week, I do three-ish workouts. And unfortunately, I don't really have the time to do a whole hour and a half workout anymore. So I've condensed it even just to half an hour. And it kind of sucks. I can't keep working out but at the same time, it's just making me a lot more efficient which was really nice. So I'll finish up with my clients or finished up with the gym and being out a quick workout. So those are nice. We ran out once a week and do a quick 30 minute lift three times a week.
[00:31:02] Chad: I know that feeling is, you'll get to that point when you hire somebody else. It'll be nice to offload some of that. And you'll be able to block schedule yourself so that you can fit that time in. Because right now you just like, “It's fine. I'm busy, it's good, it's all fresh”. But after a while, it starts to get you a little and it'll start wearing on you and you're like, “I bet for me working out as an outlet. And I'm sure it is for you too”. So when you don't have that outlet, and you feel like all you're doing is working, working, working, it really does wear on you. So don't be afraid to block schedule that out in the future, it's okay. Don't feel guilty about it's not selfish.
[00:30:39] Josh Fischer: People understand, that’s what I keep telling myself.
[00:30:41] Chad: People love to me and like when they when they see us, because we close down from 12-2 every day and we work out so our two o'clock patients that come in, they're just like, “Oh, it was the workout today?” They love it because, again, it's like you practice what you preach. So I think that's great that you're so busy right now. I love it. And just make some time for yourself, though.
[00:31:02] Nick: When I don't have time. So I just jump in with one of my clients.
[00:31:05] Josh Fischer: That's true. He does do that.
[00:31:06] Nick: I just get all sweaty.
[00:31:08] Josh Fischer: Do that everyone's in a week like a Friday.
[00:31:11] Nick: Totally. They enjoy to do that. So that's cool. Do you do anything specific training wise for surfing other than surf?
[00:31:20] Josh Fischer: Lot of shoulder stuff I would say. And honestly, it's a lot of CrossFit it in a sense, where it's just short, and super high intensity just kind of nonstop. And that's essentially what surfing is, you'll paddle really hard for a little bit just to get out, catch a wave, and then you might like, sit for half an hour, because nothing's there. Go really hard again, stop and go type of thing.
[00:31:46] Chad: So that's the training looks good. And I know that I'm always seeing you post pictures of what looks to be amazing meals. Do you have a certain nutrition diet or anything that you're falling right now is like, pretty much whatever I decide I want to make that day?
[00:32:08] Josh Fischer: So I do the whole intermittent fasting thing. Not really. Because, like I say, it's better for you, or they say it might be worse for you or stuff like that. I started doing it in college just out of convenience. Sure, that saved me an hour of sleep. So now I could sleep in an hour. Instead, I have to cook the food, do the dishes, do all that stuff. So I actually don't usually eat until about 12. But I do meal prep everything. So I'll cook or I'll make meal prep, five meals a week, I think it is, and then have that for dinner at the gym. Also, just because I have to be at the gym at six every morning. So I don't really have the time to make a breakfast. And then same thing, I can't really make dinner because I'm at the gym three to seven. But then it's just kind of like what I'm in the mood for just kind of try and rotate things as much as I can. So I don't get bored.
[00:33:06] Chad: There's nothing wrong with intermittent fasting as long as you can enjoy it. And if you can tolerate it, there's nothing wrong with it.
[00:33:16] Josh Fischer: I think my body is just so used to it. If I started eating breakfast, that'd be like, what's going on?
[00:33:24] Chad: I can't not have breakfast in the morning, that's just me. I've tried the intermittent fasting thing. We've even done 24 hour fast, Nick still does it. I can't do it every other week. But you do feel amazing when you're done with it, or at the tail end of it. But getting through the first. I don't know 14 to 16 hours is like pure hell, for me anyways, because my body's just not used to that type of situation or environment. It likes the food.
[00:33:52] Nick: So we have nothing wrong with intermittent fasting here at perform, it's just the, we find that people who do it thinking this it's going to be the secret to their weight loss. Most people who then try it either struggle to actually get adequate calories in. So now they're just driving like nutrient mineral deficiencies, or they're just eating, they're getting their calories and a bunch of just non-nutrient foods, because they're just like, “Oh, intermittent fasting, I can eat all this junk”. And as much as it's a good way to control calories, you still want to make sure you're getting good quality, whole food calories, not just a bunch of junk just because you’re shorten your eating window. So that's kind of our big qualm. So if someone's doing that, like you clearly are your meal, prepping all that kind of stuff, then I got a buddy who does it too. Like, if it works for you, it works for you. I like the every so often longer fast, just because it feels just like a reset day. Like not that I necessarily need that all the time, but I feel like I'm letting just my body to clear itself of all the toxins and stuff that we're exposed to so I like it from that perspective.
[00:35:07] Chad: So is there a favorite meal that you have? If you meal prep something, you're like, “Oh, I forgot I made that. I'm so glad I did that this week, because I do that”. How do I do it every day because I eat the same shit every day?
[00:35:22] Nick: I always look forward to my first meal too, because that's the meal prep one, and I'm like, “Oh my gosh, this is so good”.
[00:35:28] Josh Fischer: So it's Filipino dish called Les chomh. And basically, it's a pork but you throw it in the crock pot for seven, eight hours, for whatever spices you want, then you toss it in the oven, get it crisp up. So that along with rice and bok choy is probably my go to thing. I think I'm actually going to make that next week.
[00:35:52] Chad: That's awesome. That sounds really good. So this is kind of a question that we throw it to pretty much all the trainers that we have on the podcast, because we're always curious to see what they're going to say. And then the question is, what would you say is the best bang for your buck exercise? If you could only choose one exercise to give someone? What would it be?
[00:36:14] Josh Fischer: I actually had this conversation with one of my clients. He said to but I said he's a burpee or the thruster. And then I threw in just like a regular farmer's carry at the end. Actually the other place I work at one of their profile questions was, what's your favorite exercise? And I said, burpee and everyone's coming up to me, “Dude, are you crazy?” a little bit. But then I explained the circumstance that kind of context.
[00:36:46] Nick: Context is everything. I would say that's probably also people's least favorite.
[00:36:53] Chad: Totally. Sometimes those are the best ones, though, for the ones you don't like. So anything that you have coming up, Josh, that you want to let our listeners know, you get new specials coming up, you get at the end of the year has come in. So is there anything you want to mention?
[00:37:08] Josh Fischer: I guess now in the end of January, doing the same back to school deal. So again, 10% off your first two months, if you sign up for a membership, timespan. And then again with the college kids coming back. Same thing I did over the summer, so just 100 for the month that they're back. And then does the two specials. Again, like I said, hiring someone soon. And then I actually 10 minutes before I got here. My landlord gave me the right to drive a little office at the gym. So gonna rent that out to a new local nutritionist. So I'll get her in there as well.
[00:37:58] Nick: That's great. That's perfect. Who's that going to be?
[00:38:02] Josh Fischer: Katie, James. She's out in the nutrition.
[00:38:06] Chad: Well, that'd be good. That'll offload some stuff off you too. And that's a good complement to the training, the nutrition’s can't.
[00:38:14] Josh Fischer: Like, I'll send people to her. She'll send people to me.
[00:38:18] Chad: And she already established like nutrition. That's awesome. That's perfect. So I'll put all that information too in the show notes as well. Can you let everybody know how they can find you, Josh, whether it's through your IG, your website or email?
[00:38:33] Josh Fischer: Instagram and Facebook is TsunamiStrength. And then emails, just tsun[email protected], and then phone number is 978-406-9966.
[00:38:50] Chad: Perfect. I'll put that on the show notes too. Oh man, it was good to have you on the podcast today. A lot of great conversation and we definitely have you again, for sure. And I know that you're always in the area to with us. So I'm sure we'll be hanging out again soon. But I don't have anything else to add. I think it was awesome. Thanks, Josh. Appreciate it, man.
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